ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS AND INTERDIMENSIONAL BEINGS with Robert Solomon

In this new episode of the After Hours Chats podcast, I sit down for a fascinating discussion with Robert Solomon of the podcast This Uncanny Earth. Robert has a vast array of knowledge ranging from ancient civilizations to cryptids to paranormal activity and more. 

He is also one of several cool panelists that have been featured as part of Christine Soltis's live panels (and this podcast was a guest livestreamer for the last one!). 

So sit back, grab a beverage and enjoy this new episode into the unknown.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Well, hey there, and welcome to another episode of the After Hours Chats podcast. Tiffany here. And last episode, uh, we had on Bigfoot expert uh Brian Seach, or at least that's the topic that he's the most passionate about, but he's pretty knowledgeable in other cryptids as well. And this week I have somebody else who is also in the cryptid and interdimensional uh creatures as well. Um and I have also met him at uh Christine Soldis' uh Cryptids panel uh this past April, and it's a pleasure to have you on. So I'd love uh for you to um introduce yourself and what exactly it is you do and what you specialize in.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

So my name is Robert Solomon. I'm a also much like yourself, I'm a podcast host of this Uncanny Earth, where we delve into different facets of the world around us. Um from Dyson spheres to Bigfoot to ghosts to science to religions to everything under the sun. Um we get into that. I've started getting into this stuff when I was young, like a really young age. My uh my grandmother had a uh a Time Life Westerns book that showed the the the bodies of the dead because in the old west they needed those bodies as two things. One is proof the person was dead so that the time would would would calm down, and two, it would uh curtail would-be thieves into making those same mistakes and ending up in that box that everybody has to walk by. You see the bullet holes and because they wouldn't they wouldn't clean that up, they wouldn't remove that. So you're seeing the bullet holes in the head and the chest, all of it. Yeah, yeah. So ever since then, ever since that point, I was like, well, there's more to this earth than than what I thought it was.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Oh, very cool. And um is there a particular area of study uh that you specialize in? Because I know I uh met you at the cryptid panel, um, but yeah, is there like a particular like area of study when it comes to interdimensional uh beings?

SPEAKER_01 2:32

So for myself, um I love studying other religions. Um I have my own faith as well, uh, but I I feel like a lot of history is intertwined with different religions, and different religions discuss different cryptas, but they all seem to have a shared experience of what are known as giants or giant beings, giant entities, however you want to phrase this. We have um the the the Islamic faith that talks about uh Abel being, you know, eighty feet tall. We have the Christian Bible that talks about the um Nephilim, the Book of Enoch, and then you have Native American legends about giants that inhabited the United States, the black and red-haired giants that were here before the um the American Indians were, and they had killed a lot of them off because they were cannibalistic. Um and there's a lot of red-headed giants um, excuse me, um, that are cannibals that are listed throughout history that I don't know if it's something to do with the genetic aspect of it where these giants produced that red hair and they were just cannibalistic by nature, or if they're an offshoot from a previous civilization. I'm a big proponent of our world flipping or resetting. Um because if you look at a different historical texts, it'll talk about um like the hope we have the ant people that came and grabbed them, took them underneath uh the earth so that the earth could go through its catastrophic phase. There's also a belief that the poles have shifted numerous times, and that's the Adam and Eve um situation where the Garden of Eden was here, shift, nice gone, shift again. Yeah, and and and it's it's it's basically like we go through um resets every you know five to ten thousand years.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Yeah, yeah, and that's interesting that you um mentioned the giants and like the book of Enoch and all that stuff. And the thing is too, it's like a lot of these creatures, you know, are it's it's not it's not as though, okay, one religion or one culture talks about them. You know, it's not like oh it's only it it's only in the book, you know, the book of Enoch or like the the books that were taken out of the Bible and and everything, which that's a whole nother rabbit hole too. As to why that happened. But um, but yeah, but like but you know, like you said, there's like the Native Americans, there's you know, there's the Islamic religions, like in, you know, in over in the Middle East and in Europe and all over the place, like people talk about these giants, and um, like what's your like what's your take on them and where they came from?

SPEAKER_01 5:21

So I treat this conversation like I treat the flood. Um there are so many, because obviously you have the Holy Bible that talks about the flood, um, which happened due to the unification of Watcher and Um uh female women that ended up with the Nephilim. You also have uh the um the Mayans and their giants, you have the Aztecs and their giants, and then you have Southeast Asia and their giants. And this isn't something that I, you know, if if there was, you know, if there was 20 um stories about giants, I might be able to say, you know what, that's cool, you know, it's probably not true. These people probably just exaggerated. Um, but when you're dealing with thousands upon thousands of cases, and then you run yourself into the Smithsonian era of giants, which early Americana into you know where we're at today, and the Smithsonian coming in taking bones out of uh high school gyms, they had a big giant there that they had found on the school property, and they decided to put them up in the high school in California. And the Smithsonian came in and probably bought it for like a nickel because the Smithsonian, that's what they did. They would go get all these bones. Um, so between that and between numerous accounts um in Native American folklore and Middle Eastern folklore, Asian folklore, European folklore, the fact that there's so many of these accounts, much like the flood, how there's different accounts across the world, at some point you have to put away the concept that this is a might be and that it is a reality.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Right, yeah. Now, now, yeah, it's it's it's interesting too that you mentioned the flood. Um what is your take on the flood? Because I know a lot of people have a lot of different theories on that, on you know, what exactly that was. Like everything from, you know, God parting the heavens and sending down the waters, and then some think it's it, you know, just it was like a kind of like volcanic springs, you know, coming up. Um and then like the story of like Noah, like what like what is your take on that?

SPEAKER_01 7:37

So Noah is part of a story also known as Ununapishtum, who was a Sumerian fellow, same basic concept. Um, but the flood to me, uh in my in my faith, um was done by God himself. Um, however, it could definitely be done scientifically. You know, I think there is some some scientific fact of that. A lot of people point to it being a localized flood.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Um, but the fact that there's so many cultures that have this flood narrative and that people survived, a lot of people think Noah was the only one that survived him, his wife, yeah, um uh Ham and Sham and Japheth, they all survived, their wives survived. But what that does is that sets up for um an incest uh incestuous aspect because because it's just them. Uh for me, I think other people survived that flood, but I think it was paramount to put forth that Noah or Unapishtum had survived that flood. But I definitely think other people did, and and I say this from a scientific point of view, because if anybody's ever looked into the um the Plantagen dynasty of Europe, they were very much inbred. They were very much, you know, cousins with cousins, brothers with sisters, mothers with sons, fathers with daughters, that sort of thing. What that does to your genome and what that does to the genetic aspect of the human body is it starts to distort it, it starts to break down certain aspects, certain proclivities, it starts creating a sense of um paranoia or the Habsburg jaw, if you've ever seen the Habsburg jaw.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Yeah, I was about to say that. Yeah, the Habsburg of Germany, you know, but very you know Yeah, and and they were they were all inbred.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

And what that does is it genetically makes a person inferior in many ways that are important to our everyday life. You know, simple things such as thinking, uh, things such as eating, sleeping, walking, things that we do normally, these folks couldn't do. And so that's that's for me is the paramount reason why I think the flood was uh that other people survived that flood, just because the genetic anomalies that would arise from that would decimate a population. And if we read the Old Testament, a lot of that is a survival manual. People think, oh, you know, oh yeah, you know, they they make fun of not eating shrimp. Okay, let's take that back. If you eat shrimp and it is not cooked, it can't kill you. Right. If you eat these shellfish that aren't cleaned, they're not washed, they're not cooked to an appropriate temperature, it can kill you. Yeah. So you have to look at that as a survival manual, and if you are inbreeding, you're gonna genetically destroy the parts and pieces that make you strong. So for me, um, yeah, there there was more people that survived, definitely, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah, yeah. And you know, I always thought that that theory, you know, made sense, made more sense than just one family surviving. You know, I you know, I do think that, you know, because especially, I mean, especially when you talk what when you talk about how, you know, you know, if the flood happened like post-flood earth and everything, you know, if you and how that affected the land and how that would have spread out the land and created more mountains and you know, eroded away some parts of it, you know, and and to me that that would be way more ground to have to cover. You know, it doesn't make sense. And and it so therefore it would make more sense that there would be more people that survive to kind of spread out throughout basically this this newly formed land, pretty much, you know, to you know, basically start humanity over. And um, yeah, but um but I yeah, it it's really, really interesting, like all the different rabbit holes that you can you can go down with that. And um, you know, and I know that there's like a bunch of theories of how there's uh giants like within mountains, um, there's prehistoric animals like you know, buried within mountains, you know, especially because you know, when you get into like Appalachia, but even other parts of the world too. Um, you know, what are and what are your thoughts on um some of the interdimensional beings? Like, I know, you know, I I I'm very fascinated with like the Wendigo. That's like one area, one one cryptid, one creature that you know, I've you know, I've been studying a bit. And there are aspects of the Wendigo that do imitate um those prehistoric giants. You know, and so what are your thoughts on that? Were there some interdimensional creatures that maybe would have escaped like a a catastrophe, like the flood, or you know, anything, you know, like the asteroid that supposedly killed the dinosaurs, you know? Um, what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 12:52

So I have an interesting thought about the asteroid. Um if we look at Mars and we look at the pock marks on Mars, we see that Mars itself went through a period where it was destroyed. Suppose there's life on this planet. Well, if the people that lived on Mars wanted to get out before this catastrophe happens, you're gonna terraform the closest thing to you that would support life. Right. And so terraforming the Earth would be the way that you would do that because you want to remove all these hostile hostile creatures so you can set the stage for human beings. Now, in terms of creatures escaping, um I think there are I I have different periods that I have researched. So there's the anti-deluvian period where you have men living into their ten thousands, fifty thousandths. Yeah. You have these giant beings, you have Nephilim, you have the post-flood, where men are now living at about a hundred and twenty, maybe a hundred and fifty. Then we fast forward into the pre-industrialization era, where I think fey folk, um a lot of your Cernunos, your deer men, things like that existed in Europe. Not so much here, right, but in Europe. Um but once the industrialization happens of the of the UK or of England or of Europe, yeah, that smog that pollution starts pushing these fey folk. And for folks that don't know, fey folk include a plethora of of beings, and it's not just fairies, it's goblins, not just these cute little pixies, you know. Right, right. It's little troublemakers in your house that hide your things. Um so I think after that industrialization, you have people that are or you have these beings that now they've scattered, they've gone deep into the woods. That's why you don't see a lot of these things in big cities because they don't go there. Right. And then you have the pre-technological era, which were, you know, we we had some sightings of airships and blimps and things like that before those were famous. Um, then you have the um the technological breakthrough era, and I think it's at that point that most everything sort of skedaddles is the best way I can put it that pushes to the far rim. However, if we look at when we start working with nuclear fission, when we start trying to split that atom, something took notice, some things took notice, whether that be aliens, cryptids, whatever you want to call that, uh something took notice and they started becoming more prevalent. UFO sightings were becoming more prevalent. Now, are those UFOs government official? I don't know. Right. Um, but I think a lot of what you see is pushed to those fringes. And I think the case with the Wendigo is an interesting one because it has some interesting facets, such as it's it's almost like a curse, and your body's deteriorating to the point where you have to eat other people in order to sustain some form of human consciousness because you start losing that during that transformation, and that doesn't cut into the effect of skinwalkers as well. These entities or these beings have so many legends stacked up with them that at some point you have to start facilitating truth from fiction. You have to start saying, okay, what are these um entities? What are they really? Because I, you know, I like to consider myself a peaceful skeptic. I want to get out the way what it could be. Like, say my door just magically opens, right? Is my door on a on a on a on a slant? Is my door on a decline where okay, now the door's gonna close automatically, but everybody's you know spooked out. I think once we move past that, then we can start ascertaining the best way to sort of lock down these cryptids, much like the Wendigo, which I also find very fascinating, much like your skinwalkers, once again, which I find fascinating. But I think a lot of this is part and parcel to our love for that atom area, our love of we've made a nuclear bomb. Yeah, it's like one of the most powerful processes known to man at that time, and we have pushed it so far forward that other things are taking notice. And maybe that's also caused certain things to avoid us like the plague.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

Yeah. Yeah, no, because it you know, because when you look back in like historical texts and everything, like a lot of those, you know, even like the Grimm's fairy tales, it's like it's actually I I've I even read like and and you know, heard certain accounts where the Grimm brothers actually experienced some of the worlds that they wrote about, and how like the Black Forest in Germany, how there's like portals in there, and um, you know, and and and yeah, and it just seems especially um pre-industrialization, so many more of these like stories uh and sightings were you know were prevalent. And you know, and and not that it that there still aren't sightings uh today, they just don't seem to be like as many people um seeing them. Like they don't seem to want to show themselves as much, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

And not that there weren't before. I want to also put out there that there were aliens seen way back in the Roman days.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

Right? But it's the frequency, and we can we can we can attune that to technology. Our technology was better, so now we have the ability to see these things. We have the ability to track these things. Back then they didn't have that ability, they thought it was just demons or monsters flying around in the sky. And there's there's a couple different cases, and I've I've talked about this in presentations, of airships in the medieval ages landing and taking pieces of a church. A guy came down like he was swimming, like he was swimming. Not and and and that's what I find to be fascinating is that they don't abide by the same physiological rules and laws that we do. Right. We have to abide by a set state of laws because of gravity. However, these beings and entities seem to operate almost outside the lines of our known physiological means. They seem to have more endurance, more strength, they're faster, they're smarter, they can see in the dark, they can see things that we can't. And so you have to wonder if these are byproducts of that bygone era. And a lot of them either went underground or they went so deep in the forests that we can't find them. And and I like to I like to throw out the the the analogy of the giant squid. We didn't think the giant squid existed, we thought people just made this up and then we go and find it. And that's another thing. We don't even know what's in the ocean, we haven't mapped out even close to half the ocean. So and if there's been giant squids, what else is there?

SPEAKER_00 20:10

What else is there? Yeah, I mean it said it's something like we've only like really explored about like what, like five percent of the ocean?

SPEAKER_01 20:20

If that, maybe eight at most, I think. Maybe eight at most. That's eight percent. Yeah. Now, if you've ever been to the to the ocean, and I've been to both the um Pacific and the Um Atlantic, yeah, and it's vast. Like you just standing there on the beach looking out, it's like the it's miles and miles and miles and miles. Yeah, that's not to mention how deep it goes. You know, there's there's things down in the depths that produce their own source of light. So you're you're telling me things like like the Bigfoot of the Deer Men couldn't exist. I don't know. And we have to wonder too, if a lot of these cryptids are they products of our imagination that we have believed so heavily, almost like a tulpa, if you will, that we have believed so heavily in this one thing that somehow we have given this thing a life. And I also want to point out Sud as if they that they've done on prayer amongst a large mass of people, and there's energy readings that come off of that. Right. So you have to wonder, are those just whatever? Or do we have something divine inside of us that allows us when put together and enough energies put forth, the creation of said entity? Yeah. I don't know, I don't have enough experience in that field in terms of research. I can you can read as much as you want all day, every day, but until you're out there and and and and seeing if this is legit, that's where I'm like, okay, it's a possibility, and until I see it, it just still remains a possibility.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that makes me think of uh this uh one it's actually a uh Native American, it's it's part of Native American lore. And um it's called not not the Wendigo, but a Wetico. It's yeah, that W-E-T-I-C-O. And basically, yeah, what that is, it's um it's a manifestation of your shadow. So sometimes when people think that they're being attacked by a demonic entity, it's like you know, and I mean not that demonic entities don't exist, but in some cases, really what you're being attacked with is the unhealed version of your shadow.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yes. You gotta do a lot of that shadow work.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yes. Oh yeah, shadow work, yeah. We I've discussed that, you know, very in-depth with like a couple other guests and everything. Um but yeah, but we've yeah, we're very big on shadow work over here. But yeah, but that's why it's so important to to face your shadows and you know, and to do, you know, do the inner work on yourself. Because, you know, a lot of the time, you know, and again, I'm not, you know, obviously not saying that demonic entities don't exist because you know, a lot of people have, you know, experiences with uh those beings. Um, however, you know, some and that's why it's it is so important to have that type of discernment too, you know, so that you can properly, you know, exercise what you need to. Like it's like, okay, is it residual energy, you know? Is it, you know, my own shadow? You know? Is it, you know, or is it, you know, maybe, you know, a darker human spirit? Or is it, you know, like the actual demonic entity that where it might take a little bit more work to, you know, to finally, you know, to get rid of it. But um, but yeah, but it's it's really, you know, and and one thing I like about the people that I've talked to so far, you know, because I know you, Brian, and also the um whispering souls paranormal investigators. Um I like when people show discernment like that. You know, it's like, okay, they're not just going to hear a bang and be like, oh my gosh, it's ghosts, you know. It's like because that's the thing though, you need to have that discernment. You need to break down, okay, what could it possibly be in order to really get to the root of it? And then when you get to the root of it, that's when you you can, you know, get into problem solving area and everything. Um, but like, but what are your thoughts on on that?

SPEAKER_01 24:42

So with with demonic possession, I don't believe it's necessarily the head spitting um uh Reagan from the Exorcist. Right. Demonic possession is let's say you have something I want, and I'm gonna do everything in my physical power to get that from you. I don't care if I have to cross you, I don't care if I have to take you completely out of the equation, I want it, and it will be mine. That's demonic possession. I don't because to be honest, we we we sit here and we see these videos of the head spinning and puking. I'm not saying that's not part and parcel of that, but it serves no purpose. It just serves to scare somebody. You're just doing parlor tricks to scare somebody. No, this is this is demonic possession to me is you know the the the creepy people of the world that I'll I'll put that lightly because I'm not gonna go into depth on that one. But like the the horrible things we do to each other, the greed, the um the pride, the avarice, the hate we have for another, that's demonic possession because that's what is actually um causing those things to happen, is these it's this wickedness that lies within all of us. We all have the ability to do wicked things to each other, but it's it's choosing to act on it. And you know, and I think that that when you deal with demonic possession, you have to look at things like what kind of mind state is that person in. Um a lot of your serial killers, I would say that's demonic possession. Yeah, um, a lot of your people that just are greedy to be greedy, that's demonic possession. Um, they did a case many, many years ago. Uh Annalise Michael, I don't know if you know this, you know this, you probably do.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yeah. So I did um I researched this ad nauseum. I was like, I gotta figure out what the case is with this person.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Come to find out, the so she was a paranoid schizophrenic, and she was in the church, so her brain automatically gravitated to the place that she felt the most familiar, pardon me, and that was the church. So everything that happened revolved around the church. Well, they go to put her on some medication and she's fine. They take her off. Now, anybody that knows about mental health meds, if you just rip them from somebody, yeah, it will basically cause them to have a psychotic break because their brain is starting to heal itself, right? And now all of a sudden you've taken away cold turkey. You haven't weaned them off, you've ripped it away from them, their brain collapses. And that is exactly what happened to Annalise Michael, is her brain collapsed. It just it couldn't hold the weight anymore of all the of everything she was going through, and so it collapsed. Um, and then that's why she looked emaciated, that's why she looked like she wasn't she looked evil because these people took her off the medication that was essentially saving her life because she was good. Once they put her on that medication, she started to level off, she started being, you know, a normal person in society, and they said, Oh no, that's that's evil, that's wicked. Then they took it from her, and then they basically killed her. They they basically wrote her a death sentence. They said, you know, we're taking this stuff away from you. Oh well, and I've heard the recordings of her talking, and it is in line with what a paranoid schizophrenic would go through. They're paranoid, you're having extreme paranoia to the point that you're you're breaking mentally, you're not you're not here. It's very akin to a dementia patient. Um, you slowly start breaking down mentally, and she broke down mentally, and it it breaks my heart to see that because she was good to go. And then, you know, people being people and doing people things, and if you always remember, people will do people things, you're never quite disappointed as much, you know, because you can always count on that. But watching her go through that, because I saw her as a beautiful young woman, and then I saw her as an emaciated person, something that was a formerly beautiful thing, you've destroyed that. And and you can't there's nothing you can do. You once you've once you've caused her to have that psychotic break, you can't come back from that. And that that it hurts. It hurts to see that because she's just a normal person. She just had her her her her brain or the chemicals in her brain weren't righted. There was no balance in the chemicals of her brain. It leaned one way or it leaned the other way.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

And that's what killed her. And if they would have kept her on that medication, she would have lived to be a very old age. I truly believe that.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, because I I know I I you know heard of that story. And, you know, and I've heard like people, you know, talk about it saying that it was more of like a mental, you know, mental illness than, you know, and it wasn't really um possession. But um, but that's the thing too, because you know, and that's where it's also important to be uh discerning because you know, as much as we love the exorcist movie, you know, that's not what most, you know, possession looks like not at all. No, you know, I mean that would be too obvious, I would think, you know, because you know, these you know, demonic entities, they're crafty creatures, you know.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

They're and what better way to take somebody's eyes off of that by putting a person who is mentally unstable and say, you know what, let's do that. Yes, let's make them unstable. Meanwhile, you go over here and you take and destroy as much land or you kill as many people as you can to get what you need. People think that's just war, they think that's just what that's what it is. But that person over here that is just mentally broken is demonically possessed. Make it make sense.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Yeah, and that's you know, that's what I say, you know, too. It's you know, it it's not it's the people in the suits that you need to be worrying about. You know, you don't need to be worrying about, you know, at least to a large degree, like the horror movies or you know, Sally's crystal shop down the road. It's like that's not who you need to be worrying about. You know, you there's you need to be worrying about like the, you know, like I said, the people in the suits, the people who are like, right, oh, we're we're here to help you, but we're here to poison everything for, you know, it's the key word.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

We're here to help.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Yeah, yeah. But like, but that's that's what you need to be, need to be worried about. And I think all these other cases of you know, you know, people like you know, going after like heavy metal, going after, you know, horror movies, going after, you know, things, you know, like I said, you know, Sally's crystal shop down the road, like going after those things, you know, those are distractions. I mean, and even, you know, if you get into like, you know, uh, I've heard, you know, just things on like the satanic panic of you know the 1980s and everything. It's you know, and not that that stuff doesn't happen, but again, that was being served as a look over here while we do all of this over here, you know, it's a distraction.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's it's sad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

So what are your um thoughts on um, because I know I've read uh some theories on how the earth is actually hollow and there's like there's cities inside the earth instead of like what we're told is actually inside the earth. Like what what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 32:27

So it this is this is an interesting question to me because I believe it's possible. I believe that, you know, like we said, the men in suits, they probably have whole underground cities.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Um and and people say people always want to say Hollow Earth is more of a metaphysical aspect, like uh Shambhala or any of those places. But if you go to the Denver International Airport, they have a whole secret underground section. If you go to um the bunker at White Springs in West Virginia, uh there's a bunker down there that goes all the way down for the world's leaders. So, yes, there are cities down underneath the ground. Yes, of course. Um now the one thing we have to remember though is human beings need a certain level of vitamin D to survive. We need sunlight. Like we can't just live underground forever unless you have artificial sunlight, which they do have. I don't know, you know, obviously, um technology that the government has or whoever is is running running things. Yeah, their technology is far more advanced. It's been said that the tech the technology the government has is anywhere from 20 to 25 years more advanced than what we have today. So it's possible that they do have artificial sunlight. Now, that being said, do I think that there's a hollow earth with a little sun on the inside of it and all that? I don't necessarily think that. Um could I be wrong? Sure. I'm not I'm not about to go traipse off and and and go deep into the underground of the earth, mind you.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Antarctica, you know.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

Right. I would love to go to Antarctica, but they won't let you there. There's a reason they don't let people in Antarctica, and I have a whole theory about that one.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Wow. Um But for the most part, you know, you go to Mammoth Cave in Kentucky and it it goes. It it's one of the deepest um uh cave systems in the United States. Right. So you have to wonder, hey, what's in these caves? Right. Because much like the ocean, we have not explored all the cave systems. Is there something deadly lurking in there? Probably. I mean, there's there's probably something crazy in there. Um but as far wise as underground cities, yes. But in terms of like a whole sun and that sort of like like you know, oceans down there, uh I don't know about that. That would be something that I would need more empirical evidence before I could ascertain whether or not that is a viable uh belief.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Wow, yeah, yeah. So like what are some of your uh thoughts on Antarctica?

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Ah, yes, now it's time for people to look at me like I'm crazy, which is fine, I don't care at this point. Um, so one theory that I have is that um if we read the book of Enoch and we uh we we study it um the first book, because the second book goes on to talk about the high heavens and things like that. But the first book talks about when God punishes these watchers or these angels that had intercourse with human women, they are put into the earth. They are put in chains and they are bound into the earth. And I think one of those places could very well be Antarctica. I mean, we have to look that Antarctica at one point was a lush tropical paradise. They, you know, you got, I think, three miles, three to six miles of ice, but underneath that ice, I think you have that lush jungle paradise. And there's a reason why there's no skirmishes there, everybody seems to get along very well there. You don't have a lot of, you don't have wars being fought there, and there's a reason for this. Yeah. Now, of course, you're gonna have scientists down there just studying the place, obviously. But I think there's some nefarious things that are going on, and whether that's they're harnessing the power of these entities and using their power for negative aspects of our our society, our civilization, who knows? But that's one of the biggest things for me is what's there. And and I also want to point out that if we've if you've ever read Dante's Inferno, just the first one. There's three books, but the first one. The ninth circle of hell isn't fire, it's ice. Ice because ice is a sign for betrayal because there's nothing colder. If if you are willing to stab somebody in the back that loves you, cares for you, gives you everything, yeah, and you're willing to stab them in the back, it's a cold thing. It's not anything, it's not like you know, it's not like a crime of passion.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

This is an ice cold thing. You don't care at all about that person. And so when we look, we looked at uh Brutus, Cassius, and Judas Iscariot, one in the mouth of Satan, the other two in his hands, and he takes turns eating them. Before uh Virgil and uh Dante go in to see the devil, in the lake, it's a frozen lake, and there are people trapped neck down in ice. Antarctica, a big block of ice. Now, obviously, the the divine comedy was written as a way for um the author to Dante Alighieri to sort of slander nobles, like it the the whole process is him just it it's just for the kids out there, it's a very big diss tape. He's just dissing everybody going through and running people through, but there has to be a reason why you decided that that circle at the bottom was pure ice. Yeah, you know, did you take some things from Antarctica? Uh also there's a lot of talk of you know all these countries having spots in Antarctica and they don't fight. You don't hear about wars breaking out down there. Nobody's tried to go down there and invade, nobody's tried to go down there seeking secrets. I mean, we saw with area um with area fifty-four. No, I think I got that wrong. Um, the area where everybody tried to break in. Um Roswell and all that.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Area 51.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Um Area 51. Yeah, I was off by three. Uh Area 51, right? People gung-ho. I mean, obviously they didn't invade it because the government will just shoot you. Right. Let's just get let's get that out of the way. They will, they will take you out. Even though, in my personal opinion, nothing is there. Because the best way to keep something hidden is to, like we said before, bait and switch. Make everybody think it's all here in Area 51, put guards there, make it dangerous. Yeah. People don't understand there's areas around Area 51. People think area 51 is the only one. No, there are multiple areas that are scattered throughout that that that plane. And um, I think it's very much the same with Antarctica. I think that there's place there's things there that we don't know about. Now, is it as wild as my hypothesis? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. Yeah, but we do know for a fact that that one time that Antarctica was a lush tropical paradise. That's facts. That the scientists that went on record and said this. Um, how that happened, obviously, planets or pole shifting, something happened. A catastrophic event happened enough to where it pushed that landmass to a point where it's freezing temperatures. And I I don't know if you've ever seen any of the videos or anything of people like stationed down there. Yeah, they open this door and it's a tumultuous storm out there, like you you can't do anything. Yeah, um, so I don't know, like it's almost as if there is a spiritual force that is not allowing people to really get into Antarctica. But once again, I don't know what's down there, I don't know what they found. Right. If we go off of the Nephilim concept, um and the watchers, supposedly they've they're trapped there, and there's a place in Lebanon called the the Temple of Baalbeck. Okay. Um near the Temple of Baalbeck, there is a square, it's a it's a large concrete slab that looks like it is the covering of a tomb, a hole, something there. And and the Middle East being the cradle of our civilizations, yeah. Um you have to wonder what are they hiding? What are they trying to keep in? Trying to keep it locked in. Um, because there's wars that rage over there longer than you and I have been alive. Yeah. Longer than you and I will probably be alive. They will be fighting. They're not gonna stop fighting. Yeah. Um but if you look, it's it's you know, our governments are there, other governments are there. You know, I don't believe for a second that it has anything to do with oil. Um because if we wanted oil, we could get it from Venezuela. Venezuela has a very large portion of oil. We have a large portion of oil if we really wanted to get it. But there's something over there, there's something there that those cultures don't want us to find. That's why they are fighting tooth and nail to keep anybody from getting close to it. You know, the Temple Mound, there's supposedly something underneath that. There's so much to it that you have to ask yourself, why are we constantly fighting there? You don't hear about these skirmishes that have lasted, you know, centuries in Guatemala. You don't hear about these skirmishes that happen in Peru.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

You know, and these are places that have um spots like Pumaponku or Pumaponcu. My my bad. I always mess that one up. It's just the way it rolls off the tongue. Um, and you have Brazil, you have all these, you have the Amazon rainforest, you have the Mayas, the Incas, you have all of these civilizations that you would think people would be just en masse going down to figure out or going to war over to find out their secrets. Right. But you go to the Middle East and it's a consistent war. It's always war. Now, at one time, could it could oil have been involved? Yes, but I think oil was just a byproduct. I think whatever that is there, they still haven't found because I think if they find whatever is there, we're going to be in a lot of trouble. We're going to be in a very, very large because mankind isn't smart enough to not want to push the button, as I like to say. They want to push it. Says don't push, because I'm I I kind of want to push the button too. I'm not gonna lie, I kinda wanna push the button too, but that's that's in my nature. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

I think they can be smart enough, but I think too many people are in their egos, you know, and that and that cloud, I mean that clouds your judgment when again, you know, with when you haven't dealt with your shadows and you're just too much in your ego, that can that can cloud your judgment, like you know, really, really bad. And you know, and I speak from personal experience because when I really started to, you know, do the shadow work and had like ego deaths and all that stuff, that was when my discernment was really, it was like boom, like I was like, okay, like now, and I felt like my decision making got a lot better after that. That too. You know, and but yeah, but I do think you know we can be smart enough to discern, okay, we should or shouldn't be meddling. But again, I think just as a collective, just the the ego of the collective is just so just high. And until you know, we address that shadow, that collective shadow, not I mean individuals, yes, because it has to start with you, you know. I always reference the Michael Jackson song Man in the Mirror, you know, it's like it has to start with you, you know. But yeah, and and and and as you and as more and more people address that stuff, yes, you know, that's when humanity starts to heal, but you know, but people have to want to do that. And and I think, you know, while there are more and more people waking up to this, I I do, you know, there's still I think too much of you know, just like a collective ego there to, you know. I mean, what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 45:07

I've always looked at it like this individually, we are intelligent. When we get into a mob form, yeah, we're ignorant.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Yeah, we're filled with hate.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Yes. The hive mind is dangerous to an intellectual mind because it goes along, it doesn't stop to say this isn't the right thing to do because it doesn't want to be ostracized. Right. We don't like being ostracized because we're people. We need to have, and you know, of course you're gonna have people that say I don't need to do that. Okay, champ, you're the outlier. I get it. Yeah, but a majority of people, we want to be loved, we want to be careful, we want people around us that love us and care for us. So we tend to kind of go into that collective aspect to our detriment sometimes. That's not for our betterment, it's for our detriment. And I think once you sit back and look at that kind of like ideology, you know, you look at places like, you know, you look at um you know, you look at World War II Germany, you look at uh World War II Japan and Nanking that isn't talked about as much, but is still very much a thing. Yeah uh because people um in higher places said, you know what, we as a race are better than you by far, and we don't have to look at you like human beings. You're not us, you're not you're not Japanese, you're you're something else. Yeah. So we don't have to look at you as human beings. And if we don't have to look at you as human beings, we don't have to treat you like human beings, and that means we can get away with whatever we want in our society because then we start painting that broad brush of you know, here you are supreme, and they are not supreme. So, what should we do with the people who aren't supreme? Let's get rid of them. But first we'll do some experiments on them, and it just it shows to prove that the hive-minded aspect causes some very, very serious consequences for our society. But if we even go back, if we go back to the Spanish Inquisition, if we go back to, like I said, the Plantangent Dynasty, if we go back to Genghis Khan, if we go, you know, you keep going back far enough, you're always gonna find a collective of people. You even go back to Moses, and Moses goes on the mountain to talk to God, and and the people down there, they need a symbolic representation of God instead of just knowing that God is everywhere, right? They say, you know what, let's make some idols because we have to have proof of a God. Yeah and the whole time in the Bible, God's saying, you don't need proof. I'm here. I got you. You don't need this proof. But people are people, and they're gonna people. And I I attribute a lot of our a lot of our collectivism to our longevity. You see, we only have a short span of time, a very, very, very finite span of time between all of us. We all have an appointed day to die. Um, and nobody's gonna make it out of this. Nobody makes it out. Nobody makes it out. We're not living forever. Nobody's got the secret uh serum unless you're probably high up and you're a diabolical human being. But you, me, well, I don't know, you might have it. You might have the serum.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

I might, you never know.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

If so, link with me after, because I'm trying to live a little bit longer. I don't know forever, but just a smidge a little bit longer, just for my research. Um, but I think our longevity, and I talked about this on um my my podcast last Saturday with my co-host. I said the reason why we don't have Dyson spheres, the reason why we don't aren't able to expand our reach out into that universe is because our lives are finite. Because who's gonna pick up my research when I'm done? I don't expect anybody to pick up my research. I'll put it out there if people want to pick it up, run with it, sure. But people only live for so long, and most of them do not want to pick up each other's research, most of them want to do their own thing, and so because we don't live for a thousand years, we build, but then it erodes because that build is only for so long, we are only here for so long, so our longevity is a curse. We don't live that long, so and if we know we don't live that long, we don't have to care about other people. And that's another thing. I've heard people say, you know, I don't care what other people think because I'm not here that long, anyways, and that's crazy. Yeah, because you should care, you should have some some some love for your fellow men, even if we do not agree on political issues or uh societal issues, we should still have common respect, common love for one another, and we don't have that because once again we are taught, we are taught to hate each other, we are taught to be divided, because if you're divided, and you brought up a great point earlier, it's you're divided, haha. Now we're over here doing this, and then they can do it without obstacle, and that is something that is once again due to our longevity, we don't live long, so we have to get what we can get while we're here.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's um, yeah, it's definitely, you know, an interesting topic because um, I know you know, when you look at the ancients and how like they lived for like thousands of years and everything, and and I I mean I do think it's possible, you know, for a human to live at least like you know, over a hundred and everything and still be in relatively good shape. Um but that takes a lot of discipline, it takes a lot of mental discipline, it takes a lot of physical discipline, it takes a lot of like mastering yourself. And the thing is, it's like, and and I'm sure, and it's like when you talk to most people, I think they like the idea of doing that, they like the idea of self-mastery, but are they actually going to put in the work? I think to a large degree, unfortunately, the answer is no, I could be wrong, but it kind of like goes into that that hive mind, you know, it's like you know that okay, I'm supposed to be doing the shadow work, I'm supposed to be doing like somatic movement to, you know, kind of release all this garbage from my nervous system and my fascia and all that stuff, because that's a lot of the part that that ages you and everything. Um, I know I'm supposed to be doing things on a physical level too, which is, you know, eating, you know, trying to eat as as well as you could in this day and age. But let's face it, you know, you're not gonna totally escape the toxins, you know. Um but you know, but trying to like, you know, and just you know, you know, move your body and like do all these, you know, try to do the best you can there, you know, and you know, get your sleep, all of that, you know. But a lot of people, again, it's like I don't think it's that they don't want to do it, you know, because and I was talking to um Andrea Dean Vonscoy in the last episode that she was in, because you know, she's in her late 50s and like getting into bodybuilding, and she at first didn't think she could do it because she's like you know, too old, and like the people at her gym was like they were like, No, we have people in their 80s get, you know, getting into bodybuilding, getting into the best shape of their life. Um but she had to kind of overcome that mental hurdle of you know being programmed into thinking like, oh, I, you know, I only I you know I can't do this like past the age of like 30 or whatever, you know. Um or 20, I've heard of I've even heard people say 25. It's like really, you know, you really but you know, but it's like, you know, and even you know, because you know, I've worked in the you know the fitness industry too, and you know, and I've had you know women who are like, you know, oh I'm 45, my bikini days are over, and I'm like, why? There's and I I would tell them there's people way older, you know, way older that like in their 60s, 70s, 80s that are getting into the best shape of their lives and you know, doing all these really cool things, competing, and and it's like it was interesting to see their reaction because it was like they knew that they knew that it was possible, but they only thought it they think it's possible for other people, they don't think it's possible for them, and that is when you have to do that inner work and like get past those mental hurdles and do that shadow work and be like, hey, you know, where did these limiting beliefs come from? Because even getting back to like, you know, because you know, you were talking about like you know, prayer earlier um in this in in the hour and everything, and how you know, and really, I mean, you know, prayer is a form of manifestation, you know, it's called spelling for a reason. Words are spells.

SPEAKER_01 54:20

There it is.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

And when you're speaking, you know, death language over yourself, you know, you're that's what you're I mean, you know, and I'm not you know, it's like, and see that's where it gets touchy though, too, because then people will say, Oh, so you're saying it's my fault that like I got sick or with this disease. It's like, well, no, it's not your fault, but you know, but it is also important to recognize that you have a lot more power over yourself and your life that you think than you think you do, you know, and and I think like I said, it's I think people like the idea of that self-mastery, otherwise manifestation and the secret wouldn't be as popular as it is, but you know, but I think it's more like actually getting in and doing the work, you know. Like what are like what do you think about that?

SPEAKER_01 55:14

So for me, I lift almost every day. It's my favorite thing to do. I love it, it's a very basic primitive aspect. Um, and as a man, we build muscle better as we get older. It's easier to put muscle on as we get older, it's also easier to put fat on. So you have to regulate yourself. Um, but I go in there and I I beat my body up every single day. I mean, I I beat myself up, and I look at it like, you know, when you get old, when you're an old person, um sitting around is death. It's death. You're your your body stops working. You have to consistently move. You're always you should always be moving. Um, of course, you need to get your sleep in, that's important. You need to eat your your balanced meals, that's also important. Yeah, but it's taking that step, like, you know, there's days I don't want to go, but then I make myself go. I force myself to go because I'm stubborn. Like I I like to to say I have lived this long out of spite and stubbornness, you know, and that's it. It's just spite and stubbornness. Um, but I go in and I lift, and I probably am in that gym two hours lifting heavier weight than I lifted when I was 19, 20. Um, because I I don't limit myself in what I can do like other people do. Is that saying I'm about to go start playing college football tomorrow? No, I know my limitations, but I know how to advance myself because of those limitations. Because there's always a will, there's always a way. Yeah. You know, and and people that sit around and they feel sorry for themselves and they mope, you're just killing yourself. To be quite fair, frank, and honest, you're killing yourself. You know, there's nothing better than going in and be like, man, I want to do this today. But then when I'm done, my body's like, Thank you. You know, I feel refreshed, I feel invigorated, I feel like I could take on the world. Yeah, and I know if I don't go for a day, I almost get depressed because it's like my body's like, let's go, we got work to do. You know, we don't have a lot of time here on this earth, you got research to do, and you need to be in tip-top shape to go to the places you want to go. You know, I'm trying to go to places like Iran, I'm trying to go to places um Egypt, places that that that require a degree of self-awareness, a degree of defense, and a degree of just physical ability. You know, I'm gonna go to Petra. That like that's that's like one of the things at my on the top of my list is Petra, um, to see what the Nabataeans built, and then down um southeastern into the empty quarter, which is Oman, um Yemen, and Saudi Arabia, because that's where the tribe of Od and the Um Iran of the Pillars, which is an ancient civilization that collapsed in the sand. I'm trying to go to these places, and I can't go to them if I am a lazy wreck. I have to get myself top shape to go do these things.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, so uh so yeah, so basically, um, where can people uh find you and find your work?

SPEAKER_01 58:31

So you can find um my stuff on YouTube. Uh this Uncanny Earth, that's where um me, my co-host Spider, and my co-host Steven, we're all there. We're all talking about the cool stuff that people like. We talked about um uh we talked about uh um the Fermi paradox. If aliens is if aliens exist, why don't we see them? Yeah um we've talked about everything. You can find me at different presentations. I know Christine and I love Christine. She's such a good, good person. I absolutely love Christine. Um she's got a couple things coming up that you can find me at. Um I love doing presentations, I love getting up in front of people and talking about what I love. I'm not afraid of it. I love just I love to talk as a parent by today's uh episode, which I am grateful to you for. Um but for me, uh, you can find me there. I'm always working on research. Um, I always share my notes. So if somebody's working on something, please feel free to reach out to me personally and say, hey, you know, um, I got a question about this. Because I do the same with my fellow researchers. I don't know everything, and I'm not I'm not a big fan of gatekeeping in our community. I absolutely hate it right because you might have a piece of information that fits the puzzle that I'm working on together, which will then in turn fit the piece of the puzzle you're working on. And if we're consistently gatekeeping or we're consistently keeping information from each other, what are we doing? You know, I have if if we look, well, you gotta go the other way. I always get these confused behind me. This is just like a very small, this is probably like 17% of my total library, but I have all kinds of books here. Um this one here is the Shem's Al-Maharif. It is a Arabia Arabic grimoire with the ability to summon Jinn and Jinn Kings and magic squares. So I keep all this stuff um at all times um because my research is that serious to me because there's things I want to know. And so, you know, please feel free to reach out, thisuncannyearth at gmail.com if you have any questions. Please, I would love to work with more people. Um, I love researching, but I love getting together with other people like yourself that have the knowledge that I don't have because a lot of you are smarter than I am on things. Um, I don't know a lot about the shadow work and things of that nature. I know part and parcel of it. Um, I know bits and pieces, but I'm always willing to learn more. And while I love reading in a book, I love to read, yeah, I need somebody, you know, like yourself that has that passion behind their eyes, because you can always tell when somebody loves what they're doing and when somebody hates what they're doing. Yeah. And to see somebody like yourself or Christine, Brian, uh Jamie, and Jenny, uh, all these people that I love, these are great people. I love these people because they are my peers.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

You know, and I love them. You know, I I love these people, they're beautiful people, and I can go to them at any time. I can reach out to Brian right now on my phone and say, Brian, I got a question, and he'll be able to help me with that. Um I get people that ask me about giants all the time because I'm one of the few um experts in that field that I know a lot about giants. I've been researching this stuff for 20, 30 years. I've been reading the Bible since I was six, seven years old and had questions then. And so, you know, if you if anybody out there would like to shoot me a a message, um, I'm also on Facebook. You can find me under Robert Solomon. I'm on Instagram as well. I love going to um old historic locations. Yeah, big fan. Uh Stan Hewitt, I was just at a couple weeks ago. I love to see old craftsmanship, old architecture, and I just love being in old places. So, but yeah, you can find me. You can find me on YouTube, you can find me on Instagram, and you can find me on um Facebook. And I do voice acting as well, so I do a little bit of everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

Cool, you do a little bit of everything, very multifaceted.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:45

I do, I do.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:46

Love it, yeah, yeah. Well, cool. Well, thank you so much. And I'll um make sure I have like all of your links and your tags in the description. And yeah, thanks again for for coming on. And um, yeah, I'll have to have you on again because it seems like there's just so much more to to talk about, and especially with all the research you're doing and everything. And yeah, be sure to um check out uh Robert's podcast as well. The uncanny earth, it's called.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:13

This uncanny earth. This uncanny earth. There you go. We're gonna get you on whenever you're free. I would love to have you on.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

Yeah, we'll take your brain more about all the shadow work stuff and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

Right, and and a lot of the Celtic stuff. You seem very well versed in a lot of the Celtic aspects of things. Um side note before we get out of here, so I was able to connect the deer god Cernunos with the Irish, who they revere to the Native Americans, and it is my theory that it's because of that interaction between the Irish and the Native Americans that brought Cernunos over that you see an uptick in deer men. Because before that incident, deer men weren't seen. But after that incident, deer men were seen here in Ohio, you know, because that's where I'm at. I'm in Ohio, and we have crazy stuff here. We've got mounds, we've got deer men, we have melon head children that were part of an experiment at a facility in Cleveland.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

So we have You have a dog man there too, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

We have a dog man there too. So that's just me at night, so don't mind me. I'm just trying to get a good exercise in. Don't mind me. But no, um, in all seriousness, thank you. Um without without folks like yourself, I wouldn't be here. So I am always eternally grateful to you, to Christine, to Brian. Um, rest in peace to Fred, rest in peace to Bob Schultz. You know, these are those are two men that brought me in. If it wasn't for Fred, Seluga, and Bob Schultz, I wouldn't be here talking to you right now. So God bless them, and uh I'm grateful. I'm just grateful. I'm grateful.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:55

Yeah, yeah. Fred, I mean, I yeah, Fred was awesome. So yeah. Fred's great. Fred's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:01

He's a couple of things. You don't care if you liked him. You don't care if you liked him. Yeah, he was gonna tell you how he felt regardless, and I respect I respect any person that tells me to my face what they think, regardless of how I feel. I respect that. Because at least I know who you are as a person.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

Even if I agree with you, if you say it with your whole chest, it's like, hey, you know what? I I respect that, you know. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:23

Right, right, exactly. If you say, if you're out there just saying it, yeah, you don't care who's around, uh-huh. I gotta give you, I gotta give you some respect for that because not everybody's about that action. Yeah. Not everybody's about to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:34

A lot of people won't do that. Kind of like what we were talking about with like the hive mind earlier. You know, a lot of people, it's like they like the idea of being an individual, but yes, when you get them in a group and everything, it's like, okay, I'm just going to conform to this. And it's that survival, that ancient survival instinct that we're gonna credit that to, but you know, but I think it's time more people stepped up as individuals, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:01

So and and I and I love the fact that I can sit here with you today on a Monday night and have this conversation about all of these things that I couldn't talk about to people when I was younger. People look you like you crazy when when when we were kids, or when I was a kid. You're probably way, way, way younger than I am. So that I mean that's just a fact. Um, but when I was a kid, you can talk about this stuff. Like I, you know, I have I have family from West Virginia, and I've heard stories, but those stories stayed in hushed tones. You couldn't proclaim it, you couldn't go to Town Square and be like, I saw a ghost in old Myrtle Shed. You couldn't do that because people think you wacko. Nowadays, I love it. I love the fact that we can talk about this stuff in the open and people, I mean, people think we I'm probably crazy, but whatever. I'm long past the point of caring if people think I'm crazy. I don't care. Um because I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep putting my research out there for people to enjoy. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:59

Yeah, oh, you're welcome. And yeah, thank you. And uh thank you everybody for listening or watching, um, whether you're watching on uh the video version on YouTube and Apple iTunes or uh listening on your favorite uh streaming platform. Thank you so much. There's been like an uptick, there continues to be an uptick in listenership, so that's awesome. But yeah, but thank you so much again for coming on, and thank you everybody who listens. And until the next episode, as always, stay safe, stay fierce, and of course, stay spooky. Bye.